I loved sitting down with Leanne Brown, who many of you will remember from The Real Housewives of Cheshire, but today she’s all about wellness retreats, holistic coaching, and a whole new chapter. 

Leanne opened up about her midlife awakening, the messy truth of reality TV, and how charity work reshaped her life. We talked about worth, resilience, and why sometimes you have to strip it all back to find yourself again. 

From writing children’s books to running retreats in Ibiza and France, Leon’s story is packed with honesty, laughter, and inspiration.

Connect with Leanne HERE

Highlights:

The truth behind reality TV and leaving the show (5:47)
Charity work and finding deeper purpose (8:14)
The shift from material things to self-worth (13:07)
What’s next: books, retreats, and big dreams (17:41)
Advice for women ready to make a change (21:43)

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Transcription:

Dawn McGruer
Hey, it’s Dawn McGruer, the business growth coach and welcome to Dawn of a New Era, the podcast where we talk all things health, wealth and happiness and where founders share the good and bad and ugly of being an entrepreneur.

So welcome to Dawn of New Era podcasts and today we’ve got the amazing Inanne Brown. So thank you for joining obviously in our Private island series.

So we hadn’t met before until today, so thank you for joining the experience and some. Well, most of our viewers are probably knowing better from Cheshire Housewives. So give us a little bio of what you’re doing now.

Leanne Brown
Firstly, thank you for having me and just how warm you are. I feel like I’ve known you for ages already saying we’ve only met today because obviously the girls have met you before.

But it’s just so lovely being here. I feel so much wonderful warmth from everyone.

Dawn McGruer
It has a gorgeous paper. So when we think about obviously you, most people will know you from the TV Leanne Brown Housewives, which we will definitely delve into.

But obviously what are you doing now? Cuz people who’ve been following you on socials will have seen the myriad of things that you’re doing.

But give us a little snapshot of what is the new Leanne.

Leanne Brown
The new Leanne. So my, obviously my main focus has been the retreats for the last three, three and a half years. We’ve just come back from France. Yeah.

So that went really well. And yeah, I do wellness holistic coaching one to one as well. So I’ve done a few, a few different clients.

But I am now, I’ve also taken on a job doing, doing a private members club as well. So this is exciting, this is exciting because it’s been, it’s been a real struggle in a sense of.

I’ve always talked about stripping back the layers and trying to find myself like the truest authentic version of me. And that’s just being a real incredible journey in itself. Understanding why I’ve put up certain things and attracted certain people.

And I think we do get to this point in our lives, that midlife point when we kind of do like a life audit and think, you know, who am I, what do I really want? Who’s in my circle that shouldn’t be there and who do I want to attract, you know, that I deserve and you know, finding my worth.

And I talked a lot about and that midlife awakening and I’ve almost created a bit of a formal format around that. What I use with my one to one clients that I’ve done as well. But taking on the role, there’s always been taking on this new.

I’ve always loved to reach out to people. I always love networking. It’s part of the job that I’ve done.

With the retreats, it’s been a bit of a bumpy ride because my business partner got pregnant and she has now got a two year old. So we were doing them very, very regular.

We had a space in Arnside in Cumbria and her parents that owned that were renting it and it was going quite well and then she fell pregnant. So then that was a bit of a. More of a disjointed set up and then they sold the place. So it was, it’s kind of been.

With a lot of the things I’ve done, it’s kind of been a bit like I’ll get so far and then something will set me back. And then I’ll get so far and then something will set me back.

And we were speaking earlier about like that iceberg of the layer of things that people only see the tip of the iceberg. Yeah.

And I know that everything that I’ve done so far as being that layer, that, everything underneath that, the iceberg that no one sees, I mean they have sort of seen my journey because I’ve been very open and honest and documented a lot of stuff. So.

But yeah, I, I’ve done so many things like you’re saying I’m doing it lots of different things, things that I haven’t quite got over the line that I now know that having this other stream of income that is allowing me to mix in amazing circles. The one thing that I feel like I was lacking is not having that piece of business mindset.

I’m very, very creative and so is Sophie, my business partner. She’s got an amazing story in, in it, in her own journey and for her healing journey, which is why she does what she does.

But we’re both Aquarians so we’re both very creative and that’s why I think the business, business has took a lot like longer to get to where we are and, and still building. It’s still building. It’s not something I’m. I’m forgetting about doing at all in this role. Yeah.

So this, this role is called the Club by Sarah Restrick and it’s a high net worth private members club and essentially we curate different experiences and events to allow people to connect business. So it’s amazing because it’s getting me out there Like I say, meeting people, I get fed, I get watered, I get to go on the trips.

But also it’s given me insight into being businesses and people that are successful in business, like super successful. And that’s so valuable in anybody’s life and especially anyone that wants.

Dawn McGruer
Because we’re always learning from other people. And I think just sometimes it’s the conversations. It’s like today we’ve had a gazillion conversations, but everyone’s learning, everyone’s listening.

And sometimes it’s that different perspective, isn’t it, that just re energizes the focus and kind of brings you back in. So you’ve got this amazing role at the moment and everyone wants to know what happened in Cheshire Housewives. Did you love it and why did you leave?

Leanne Brown
Did I love it originally? It was fun because it was exciting, it was brand new and all the girls that were on it that got picked, we all knew each other, apart from.

I didn’t know one of the girls, Lauren. I didn’t know before I went on it. And yeah, it was obviously portrayed like it’s going to be really inspirational.

Women that loved each other and lived in harmony together and people like, have you seen the American ones? You know, they’re backstabbing and fighting and my mum didn’t want me to do it, my partner or ex husband didn’t want me to do it.

And anyways, I just thought, I’m just going to be myself and be myself and be on it. And I know they could edit things, but, well, they can’t if I don’t give them anything to edit. And, yeah, so that was.

It was a real rude, rude awakening when.

When you go on something and put yourself out there and it had a taste of the spotlight because Wes being a footballer, but only like going to events and being packed every now and again, but nothing like being on TV and putting yourself up for scrutiny and. Yeah, and we’re talking earlier about, you know, absorbing negative comments and taking that.

Dawn McGruer
On as life and identity.

Leanne Brown
Yeah, exactly. And I had lots of love, a lot of people saying lovely things, but you always home in on the negative part.

Yeah, so I’ve grown a thick skin very quickly and yeah, the journey on house fires, when it become really difficult, is towards the end and there was lots going on with the friendship dynamic within the show and I knew that I just wasn’t in a healthy place, you know, I was on the verge of a breakdown. I was crying all the time.

It consumed me because obviously if you’re on the show, you’re talking about it between each other, or you’re talking to the producers of what’s happened, and then you come away from it and then the other ladies that are on it are then calling you, seeing what you said in the sea, or then your friends ringing you up and say, what happened. So it was a constant consumption of, they say, reality tv, when actually it was. It was.

A lot of it was reality for my own personal thing that was going on.

Dawn McGruer
Yeah.

Leanne Brown
But there was aspects of it that. That weren’t said. So it was, you know, or twisted.

Dawn McGruer
It was curated for TV and for the drama.

Leanne Brown
Yeah, yeah. And so I just knew I had to step away from that. And, yeah, it wasn’t. I thought about it a lot, but I knew it was the best for me.

Towards the end of the show, when I knew that it was sort of coming to the end, I got back in touch with Jean Anderson, who is the founder of One Woman At A Time, who. She didn’t have the charity at that time, but Jean was actually the hypnobirthing teacher for my third daughter and she’s an ex midwife.

And I really wanted to hypnobirthing because I felt so disempowered in that environment, and I wanted to do something that felt empowering to others and to myself.

So when I got back in touch with Jean, she told me that she’d been over to Kenya working with a charity for female genital mutilation and forced marriage, and that was like a grassroots charity. She’d been traveling around and she’d found a lady that had died in childbirth and then left six children. Two of them were girls.

They were going to be sold to a man that’s usually old enough to be their grandfather and have the procedure done. So she then sponsored them.

So she’s telling me this story and then I’ve sort of switched from promoting hypnobirthing to then wanting to do something with the charity. So that was.

It was a huge shift in my journey because when I left the show, I just absorbed myself into doing the charity work and I didn’t know where it was going to lead me. And I was also writing lots of things that I began to learn.

Tanya actually introduced me to, like, the angels and sort of telling me about gratitude and asking your angels for help and connecting with them, and give me my first book about angels, the Kyle Gray one, and that sort of spurred me on to go on that journey. Yeah, I met him in la. Oh, did you?

Dawn McGruer
Amazing guy.

Leanne Brown
Yeah.

Dawn McGruer
And I think Also if anyone’s new to kind of the angel world, I think he’s got a great way of putting it across. So what was your background then in sort of like the holistic side of things? Were you kind of.

Did you put yourself into the more woo woo side from meeting Tamia or like what was your perception around like angels and things growing up some people.

Leanne Brown
Yeah. So I, I, my brother was, was a bit of goth when he was younger. So he was always into. It’s not very the Ouija boards, you know.

Do you remember Ouija board? How were you? But I think he. And he got quite deep, deeply involved in it.

But then he sort of was always going to the mind body spirit festivals and the tarot cards and so I had a sort of exposure to that kind of stuff. And then we experimented with hallucinogenics when I was younger.

We had magic mushrooms that were, that were grown in our fields like near where we lived. So lived in a little village and yeah, so I think my mind was sort of was opened at a young age to that. This isn’t just it.

There’s, there’s more that you can open your mind. Even though I didn’t really understand it they but yeah, so we’ve had many trips like wishing things when I was younger.

So yeah, so my mind was quite open to I guess now knowing it’s like different dimensions if you will. That’s how I would describe it. So I had a crystal healing before I met Tanya actually before I went on this show and she always talked about angels.

So it was Tanya that sort of really reinforced that and then gave me the book. And that was a lady called Vicky Gad, don’t you know. Yeah, she’s lovely. And so then from leaving the show.

So Vicky had seen me signing books and she said you must just write, you know, start writing about what she said. Just anything like anything that you feel to journal or you know, anything write about things that you’re learning that resonate with you. So.

So I did and started reading lots and lots of things and then did a meditation course and yoga course and did some healing therapies course the theta healing, the belief coding and. And I was just almost like a sponge I think when you start to that shift of being in that environment and a very.

We’re talking about money earlier it was a very materialistic world, a very money orientated world.

And I come away from that and I knew that there was more to life than just being desperate to buy the new bag that was coming out with the depth of season. Yeah, my regular trips to Harvey Nicholls were ridiculous.

There’s nothing wrong with buying nice things, but that was sort of my main focus of, right, I have to have this bag. I have to have the new season stuff. And.

Dawn McGruer
And do you think that realistically was a replacement for something? Was it a crutch or do you just like buying?

Leanne Brown
Well, yeah, I did like buying because I didn’t really have anything that was fulfilling me in that sense. I knew my relationship was fractured. There was always a longing for more from a relationship, so there was. There was a space there.

There was no communication other than that surface level.

But because our house was so full all the time and we had money and we were going on nice trip, nice holidays and, you know, we had a nice house and the car, the cle, the housekeepers. And at one point I had two housekeepers and a Gurkha and, you know, lived in a house. He’s like a Nepalese guy that is really.

Does that all martial arts, but he has knives and all this art. So he won’t be coming. He was literally about 4 foot. It was hilarious.

And the only one would come to the gate and he would have to climb up the gate to see what’s like. But he’s just madness now when I think, you know, it’s just all so unnecessary. And that was to do with, like, the.

The friendship that, no, you need this, you need that, you need this, you need that. Just keeping up with the Joneses, if you will, you know, and just think that was the.

The sort of what was expected and just sort of got got tied along with it. But, yes, it was a deeper meaning and understanding that I wanted to do something for me, and I did.

So one of the reasons why I went on the show is because going back now because I wanted to earn my. I always felt like the money that was being heard wasn’t mine and that would come up from time to time. So then made me feel inadequate and unworthy.

So I really wanted to do something for me. And it got to the point where the kids were. Well, Lola was only like three, but I thought I’d make a children’s clothing range, come kiss frogs.

And I naively thought just going on the show and exposing it on the show would be enough to sell, like, lots of things and this show, a tiny bit of your business on the show anyway. And it actually, the. All the exposure, it wasn’t because I realized you need to do a lot more grafting before if you make a Business successful.

So that was yeah, so my first part of wanting to do something for me. And then like fast forward, I just absorbed myself.

Like I was just like a sponge absorbing myself in doing all these different like courses and things like that. And I released my Grace Gratitude. Yeah Grit book which is a self help journal.

It had a little autobiographical bit in it when I went to Kenya and a bit about my journey.

But I’ve actually written another one which I need to release another thing that Spike sitting there as well as my six children’s books that was speaking about earlier. But yeah, I know I’m going to get there.

I know I’m exactly where I need to be and it’s all a process and of there’s a reason why it’s not over the line yet because I think needs to come into, I think.

Dawn McGruer
Different things landing at different times.

And I think it’s so interesting what you say about the fact that you thought like I go on the show and my brand is going to take off because 73% of influencers are not monetizing the brand. And like when we see this, like I think we’re exposed so much now to things like Love island and all of these different things.

Like we assume visibility equals cash, but it doesn’t actually.

And I think this is a really important point for people starting a business that it’s the bike disability and the networking is that you talk about the members club and things like that. It’s going in the right circles for the purpose that you need at that time.

And when you think about all of these amazing things that you’re going to be launching over the, you know, the next year or so, it’s exciting. And I think sometimes we put so much pressure on ourselves just because we’ve done the thing to launch it and we can move our timelines.

You know, no one said like just because we’ve said it. And I do this to myself all the time.

I. I’ve got a jewelry range coming out after my mantra cards and that was the fourth post to be like coming out sort of like July. Well, we’re in July and it hasn’t happened because other things took precedence.

And I just think, you know, sometimes we put too much pushing behind something and we’re like, we are our own deadline to. But to what purpose? Like does it matter if it comes out in a month’s time or whenever?

And I think sometimes our emotional state or physical state or mindset is a big part of it. There’s sometimes a point, isn’t there like a pinnacle moment that something just lands and we’re like, now is the time.

So it’s an evolution and when all of these things come out, like the timing would be amazing. So tell us a little bit about what’s coming, like what can we expect?

Leanne Brown
So what’s coming? The children’s book. Like I say, I’ve written like a series of six and I almost launched it a couple of years ago and something happened and I didn’t.

And then last year, the end of last year, I had it uploaded, ready to go and something stopped me from doing it then. And so now I’m changing all the illustrations of it and I’m going to be launching it in August, the first one.

And I’ve actually started writing my book up to this day as well. And I’ve given myself a goal because I’m 15 February. So that’s my goal for my book.

I’m not going to tell you title but I know the title already and I almost like I see that, you know, I know the format of it, I know how the chapters are like already started. Honestly, I’m like Mad Professor Brian Scribble.

Dawn McGruer
When you, when you’re in it, you’re in it. Yeah, I think that is it. And you’ve got utter clarity. So you know that, you know, you’ve got the conviction behind the story.

It’s coming when something doesn’t feel right, you know, that’s when you stall. So like the fact that you delayed your kids book, you know, because the illustration. But then when it’s ready and you know that it’s right, you’ll.

You’ll stand behind it.

Leanne Brown
Yeah.

Dawn McGruer
So you’ve got the books coming out and when are the next retreats coming up?

Leanne Brown
So we have. Well, actually got a retreat with the club that I’m doing a collaboration with Sarah which is in October in Iva.

That’s like super, super like luxury, gorgeous music. Yeah. But we had a beautiful retreat in France, French Chateau, which we are now rebooking for the end of June next year. Look, gorgeous.

Yeah, it was amazing. Beautiful location, everything. And give details perhaps you want. No, absolutely. And yeah, what else have we got coming up?

Yeah, I’ve got a few things that I want to do. The actual goal, I was telling Susie earlier, we want, as Sophie and I want to have somewhere that is a retreat but almost like a healing center.

And as mentioned earlier about Sophie’s story and she had pancreatic tumour, 15cm removed. She’s only 30. She’s 38. Now stop there. So it’s five years ago, five, six years ago, two small children and. Yeah, so she had that removed.

She had a spleen removed, she had part of her bar removed. And then she got secondary liver cancer 12 months later. But she’s never. She said she registered diabetic, but she’s never. She never.

She never actually took any medication for anything. And she has a lot of people coming to her to help with that healing process that are either poorly or coming out of it.

And then with myself, you know, the mindset and, you know, the belief coding and things like that. But yeah, we’d love to look into having somewhere that is specific as well, specifically for people to reduce all the toxicity and.

Yeah, you know, so much. So much in that. In that. So that’s sort of the dream. Preferably in somewhere warm.

Dawn McGruer
Yeah, up into that one as well.

Leanne Brown
Yeah.

Dawn McGruer
So if you think about the past few years, it’s been really turbulent. There’s been a lot. And you’ve made some brave moves and you’ve got through it and you’ve got some really exciting things to come.

But there’s obviously points where it’s scary to make those decisions and to make the views that you did.

What advice would you give to women who either want to make a change, get out of something that’s not feeling right or aligned either friendships, relationships, like a lot of people stay. And how would you give advice around making the move? Because it’s easy sometimes to stay in the comfort, like you said, and her lots going on.

You know, it was probably masking a lot of things. What would you say?

Leanne Brown
It’s hard to, like when you’re in it, the familiarity of it has to become so uncomfortable. So you have to make that move. And it is about just making small changes and reaching and saying earlier about asking for help. Yeah.

Knowing that there’s always somebody that will help if there’s a situation where you’re so frightened that you’re not going to be able to and provide for yourself. And I mean, I tell you, I’ve had some pretty little points of saying earlier.

I’ve literally solved everything, like my jewelry, my bags and everything. And I’m not ashamed to say that because I know it’s literally stripped me back to the point and. And this is one of the things that I’ve.

I’d always struggled with people’s perception of what they assume my life looks like and thinking that I’m okay because, yeah, I’m out with a footballer and, you know, even though you Know, he’s, he’s not financially in that same position, but you know, he’s still, you know, providing and I’m still living in the big house, which I’m not. And it literally it’s, it’s not been easy at all, like to the point where I’ve not known what I was going to do like from month to month.

So I think it is just, just having faith and, and knowing that.

I think looking, saying about the life order and the midlife thing, you know, look at your life in five years time and can you really see yourself in the same position, having them same thoughts and same feelings and you know, do it now because life is so short and we talk about how the life expectancy is expressive expectancy is around eight years old, you say average. And when you get to that midlife point, let’s say 40. I always look at summers. I’ve got 40 summers left. I’ve actually got 31 summers left.

I’ve got hope for the month. Yeah, yeah. And wow, it doesn’t seem that much. So, you know, are you gonna, are you gonna stay where you are and endure it and just still feel the.

Dawn McGruer
Same pain at the end of it? Yeah, yeah, good point.

Leanne Brown
And it is, it’s, well, it’s stripping back like understanding yourself, loving yourself enough. And so many of us don’t love ourselves enough and that’s why we stay because we don’t believe that we’re worth more or that there is more for us.

And I’m not going to say it’s easy. I’m not going to say you step out of that. You’re talking about comfort zone. It’s not easy.

It is a difficult situation, a difficult decision to step away from the relationship, especially 25 years, what it was with me. And there has been moments when I thought, have I made the right decision?

Only because of the family fractured and the financial side of it and, and just being that it is being, having that comfort of knowing somebody’s there as well. Even though it wasn’t like great toxic at times. We had some lovely times.

And so yeah, it’s, it’s knowing that, knowing your worth and understanding that there always is a journey ahead of you and whatever difficult decision that you make.

But yeah, to put them boundaries in place and the more small steps you will take to do that, then the more you will unlock within yourself and the more you will bloom, like. Yeah, I just totally feel like.

I say it’s been a bit of an up and down journey, but I know when I’M in alignment because I feel like I can totally be myself and my personality comes back out and I can be goofy and daft and fun and laugh and saying just been to Paris with some of my friends and oh, it was just belly laugh the whole time. It was. It’s so beautiful. Yeah, find. Find really true friends as well. Yeah. Yeah.

Dawn McGruer
I mean self worth is a big part across the piece.

Like every time I talk to women of varying levels and stages in a journey, everyone has some self worth the piece and it could be that it comes out at certain times of your life. And I also think sort of like I think of it like seasons of life.

Like sometimes we feel more in our kind of energetic confidence side and then sometimes things change and it knocks us a little bit.

So obviously having friends is a big piece of advice, but is there any book or recommendation that you think our listeners should turn to just to kind of help them in their journey? It could be self worth or confidence or attitude mindset.

Leanne Brown
Just so many books. I love the Gabby Bernstein books. There’s so many universe I show back. I think that’s there.

The Peaceful Warrior is one that is a beautiful book too and it resonates with. With my journey especially just because it’s knowing that everything happens for a reason.

And the Obviously the Peaceful Warrior is a gymnast, isn’t he? And then he has the bad accident and he thinks he’s got all his.

That’s kind of like I was in this world and I was thinking everything’s fine and I was going shopping and like just trying to fill that hole and that void.

And actually it’s only when it’s taken away from you is that when I’ve really had to dig deep and like then really find myself and what’s coming out now is just beautiful and just knowing that you are exactly where you need to be and like season.

Dawn McGruer
And you’re a season of bloom.

Leanne Brown
Season of bloom with my buttercup. So still areas of like. And the buds that are going to be bossy blossoming as well.

Dawn McGruer
Well, we good. My favorite time of the poke house, which is always the embarrassing story. I feel like I live for it. It’s kind of a weird addiction that I’ve got.

Like, I just love hearing it.

I think it’s because I have so many embarrassing stories which I always talk about and I’m not bothered about people knowing but I think it does kind of give a different dynamic to people. People. So what is your embarrassing story?

Leanne Brown
So we probably got a few memories stories. So the One I was thinking of telling is, oh, gosh. So when we. Yeah. On the retreats, we always talk about poo, because. Yeah, because it’s a.

It’s a digestion. Yeah. And obviously with Sophie’s journey as well, and she had to do enemies, like, three times a day when she was going through that process.

So she always talked about that. And because she feeds us lots of beans and pulses on the retreat, so. And then getting people in happy baby position and their yoga poses.

You know, we had a men’s retreat, actually, and this guy, he was. He came to the door. We were like, oh, my God, he looked like this bodybuilder.

He was, like, huge, like, muscly, and he was just like such a pussycat, you know, and he was so lovely. Yeah. And we. I had him doing this yoga pose and we were all laughing and he let out. We were talking about trumping, and he let out the biggest trump.

And we all obviously, like, had, like. Laughter. So I was telling this story, too. We had in a couples retreat a few months after the next year, whatever. And we were talking.

They were all then doing the happy baby again to say, no, well, funny story. They were like, oh, why are you getting. Giving us beans and then getting us in this position. And I said, oh, well, funny story. As.

As we were told, I was telling this story about this guy that trumped. They were all laughing.

And then I started laughing and then trumped myself run out of the door and wet myself because I was laughing so much at, like, me trumping. Telling me the story of that. Yeah. So, yeah, that was. Yeah, that was. I think. I mean, the pelvic floor needs work. Yeah. Children.

Dawn McGruer
So can I just say, like, when you ran out, like, did anyone notice?

Leanne Brown
They’ll know. I think I just told everyone to come back in.

Dawn McGruer
Well, you did say to me when I was like, is there anything I can’t ask you on the podcast? And you’re like, no, I’ve got no filter.

Leanne Brown
Anyway, I actually did wee myself a. Again at the next couple’s retreat. But this is. Honestly, we were out. Had them out on the beach, and there was one guy who was comedy, honestly.

And we had them doing this, like, stomping and everything. And this guy started doing this wiggling. Well, I just couldn’t stop laughing.

And Sophie was with us. And they all then walked off like, we were still laughing about it. And because I was laughing that much, I couldn’t hold my wee in.

And they were walking off and I was like, sophie, I’ve Literally done a full week and I had. Good job. I had a jumper on because I literally had like completely wet myself. So, yeah, I. I’ve done it a couple of times.

I think it’s going to your retreats now.

Dawn McGruer
Yeah, it’s gonna be with ticker activated system switch.

Leanne Brown
Yeah, I need to be the Hogwart fellow. My mum’s always done it. Wet herself when she’s laughing that much and so does my dog. So I think it’s the recipe. Oh, my God.

Dawn McGruer
Oh, well, the time has come that we’re going to sing Goodbye because we’ve got a bike party to have now and a glass of fizz.

Leanne Brown
Yeah.

Dawn McGruer
So if people want to follow your journey, find out more about your retreats and things like that. Where can they find you?

Leanne Brown
So there’s Eat Pray Self Love is the name of the retreat that we do. The website is eatpracelifelove.co.uk, eat Prayself, Instagram.

And then I actually have another website with, which is with lovely Ann, which you can connect with me on there and I’ve got some guided meditations on there and things like that. So that’s where I’ll probably put the. The octopus book as well. Remember? Yeah. And say, was an octopus today? No, yeah. It’s all underwater themes. Olive.

The oracle octopus.

Dawn McGruer
Oh my God, I love it.

Leanne Brown
And it’s got crystals in there and stuff. Like a really beautiful message and.

Dawn McGruer
Yeah, what a beautiful gift and.

Leanne Brown
Yes.

Dawn McGruer
All right, well, thank you so much. Thank you and yeah, thank you for coming today to the private island and thank you for sharing.

Leanne Brown
Thank you. I got re myself. I promise I won’t we. Unless you really make me laugh.

Dawn McGruer
She did say she was going in the pool.

Dawn McGruer
Yeah, maybe I’ll just wait.

Leanne Brown
You’ve got that diet foreign.

Dawn McGruer
Thanks for listening to Dawn of a New Era, the podcast brought to you in association with the Her Power Community.

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